Should undocumented immigrants be able to vote?
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Should undocumented immigrants be able to vote?

by chanel added 1 year ago

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  • They are denied their basic rights such as healthcare, a minimum wage, and the right to collective bargaining. Under our current rigid legal system, undocumented immigrants have no protection under the law, except in a couple of forward thinking sanctuary cities.There are many political issues that affect undocumented immigrants directly, such as amnesty, employment regulations and border controls, and yet they are powerless to influence the political process to achieve outcomes that are more favorable to themselves and their families!

    Citations:

    https://www.accredited-times.com/2016/10/11/why-undocumented-immigrants-should-be-allowed-to-vote/ 

    by chanel added 1 year ago 2 0

    Counter Argument

    1) Healthcare, minimum wages, and the right to collective bargaining are not human rights. The UN Human Rights Declaration seems like the most neutral metric for this. None of these are listed there.

    http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

    2) The only human rights regarding freedom of movement are these:

    Article 13.

    (1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.

    (2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

     

    There is no right to enter another country illegally, or break the law there. 

    When you break the law, you are forfeiting some of your rights. Just as if you commit a serious crime as a citizen for example, you lose your freedom of movement.

    People are not powerless to influence the political process, there is a clear legal path laid out. Follow the legal immigration process like everyone else.

    by drake added 1 year ago 1 0

    Supporting Argument

    Undocumented immigrants are treated even worse, and are denied even their basic rights such as healthcare, a minimum wage, and the right to collective bargaining. Under our current rigid legal system, undocumented immigrants have no protection under the law, except in a couple of forward thinking sanctuary cities. There are many political issues that affect undocumented immigrants directly, such as amnesty, employment regulations and border controls, and yet they are powerless to influence the political process to achieve outcomes that are more favorable to themselves and their families.

    by reem added 1 year ago 0 0

    So why shouldn't they be allowed to vote if they built this country 

    by vetonmeha added 1 year ago 0 0

    Counter Argument

    At no point in American history have non-citizens been allowed to vote. Immigrants had to follow the laws that were in place at that time in history to get citizenship before they could vote. Legal immigrants would have followed the laws and eventually been able to vote. Illegal or undocumented immigrants would not have been able to vote.

    by drake added 1 year ago 0 0

    illegal immigrants already pay taxes to us, therefore they should have the right to vote since they live in america. they should be able to pick their leaders, because their leaders might affect the way they live, and it wouldn't be just right if they were to pay taxes to america and didnt have a say on the goverment. 

    by benji_billz added 1 year ago 0 0

    Counter Argument

    Paying taxes does not give you the right to vote. The same as not paying taxes does not remove your right to vote if you are a citizen.

    But ok, lets pretend that we decided that was a good idea, anyone who pays taxes is now allowed to vote. How would we even know who has paid taxes? All the undocumented immigrants are undocumented, there is no way to determine who paid and who didn't.

    by drake added 1 year ago 0 0

    Illegal immigrants come to this country in search of economic opportunity. They search for work and when they attain it, they pay taxes just like any other citizen. They participate directly in the economy by paying rent, paying bills, using prepaid visas, etc. 

    Source: https://www.accredited-times.com/2016/10/11/why-undocumented-immigrants-should-be-allowed-to-vote/

     

    by thatguy560 added 1 year ago 0 0

    We have to deal with the 11 million individuals who are here illegally. We all agree that these men and women should have to earn their way to citizenship. But for comprehensive immigration reform to work, it must be clear from the outset that there is a pathway to citizenship. http://immigration.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001362

    by Remly added 1 year ago 0 0

    Counter Argument

    This is not relevant. Regardless if there is a path to legalization, the question is, should ILLEGAL/UNDOCUMENTED immigrants be allowed to vote. If legal immigrants should be allowed to vote is an entirely different question.

    by drake added 1 year ago 0 0

    Since immigrants are residing in the United States, they should have a voice on who gets elected. 

    by dsanchez added 1 year ago 0 0

    Illegal Immigrants aren't here to cause trouble, most of them have a reason for moving. People have to be accepted to be a legal immigrant, but what people don't realize is that they just want a better life for themselves and their children. The countries that they some can't give them the opportunities like we can. We wouldn't have illegal immigrants if we were to accept a larger mass of people because everyone deserves to have amazing opportunities. They are not going to pick against what would bring the best, and yes their opinions may be different from ours, but maybe that's for the best. We just assume we have the best opinion, but what if it's not, and some people think it may be because of their beliefs, but many countries these days consist of multiple beliefs and religions. We have grown from the thought that only one belief is right. We all have our own opinion, I mean look at this debate, we are not all saying the same thing lots of you are opposed illegal immigrants voting while many think they should. We don't all have the same belief on this matter, yet you are okay with just not when it comes to helping the society become better.

    by julia added 1 year ago 1 0

    They should be allowed to vote because if they had lived in America for a certain amount of years it becomes a part of you, you will consider it your country, you are a resident and citizen. Immigrants also do alot for the country they take jobs others wouldnt, they also work hard for the country more than americans do just fix up a country that isn't their own. They shouldnt be denied of their own rights they work hard to atleast get the right to vote. 

    http://www.debate.org/opinions/should-immigrants-be-allowed-to-vote

    by izzy added 1 year ago 0 0

    Immigrants may not be documented but most are very smart and should be able to vote 

    by ashon added 1 year ago 0 0

    Counter Argument

    Being smart or educated doesn't mean you have a right to vote. Are you saying people who are not smart or educated should lose their right to vote? Are you saying that smart/educated people all of the world should be allowed to vote in American elections because they are smart/educated?

    Regardless, there is no evidence of illegal immigrants being more educated then the average population. It seems like the opposite is in fact the case:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/majority-of-undocumented-immigrants-work-in-low-skill-jobs-report-finds/2015/03/26/dada9f2a-d3bc-11e4-a62f-ee745911a4ff_story.html?utm_term=.d328c643fbf1

    by drake added 1 year ago 0 0

    It will help immigrants be treated with dignity and apart of this country. They inspire to get their green card and a work visa.

    by ricardo added 1 year ago 0 0

    They should be allowed to vote because they are the most hardworking people in America, they helped shape the country to the way it is today so why can't they have a say in who our political leaders are.

    by markeese added 1 year ago 0 0

    Undocumented immigrants should have the right to vote because they suffer just as U.S. citizens do. They have a right to speak up. Everybody, whether they're undocumented immigrants or not, suffers the same. For example a U.S. citizen who did not graduate from high school and is working as a cook earning below $1000 can struggle to pay bills on time. An undocumented immigrant can be in the same situation, only that he/she did not go to school in the States.

     

    by jose added 1 year ago 0 0

    1. Immigration Is Good for the Economy…  2. Illegal Immigrants Already Pay Taxes…  3. Most Illegal Immigrants Are Otherwise Law-Abiding…  4. Immigration Is a Natural Right…  5. There Are Too Many Illegal Immigrants to Do Anything Else."

    by kenyette added 1 year ago 0 0

    I say its better to hear from everyone and not just the citizens of that specific state because to get everyones opinion is more of a competition and its more straight forward for everybody to have a say on who should be in control of the government 

    by alford added 1 year ago 0 0